The Immigration Debate - June 2nd


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Congratulations to guest Deborah Notkin past president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association – winner of the Coveted Golden Grog Award on the June 2nd edition of The SoapBox Radio Show.

Deborah debated Al Garza, National Executive Director of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps. over the issue of illegal immigration in America. Ms. Notkin argued for a more comprehensive approach to immigration reform to include a guest workers program while Mr. Garza believes the focus needs first to be on stopping the flow of illegal immigrants along our southern border with Mexico. They also differed on what constitutes amnesty with respect to the handling of illegal immigrants already living in the United States.

Both speakers were extremely knowledgeable and passionate about their positions. The final results of the two hour online voting poll showed Deborah winning with 60% of the vote. If you want more information or want to get involved with the efforts of either of these guests – you can access more information at the following links:

(Deborah Notkin): www.AILF.org

(Al Garza): www.MinuteManHQ.com

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Al Garza is the National Executive Director of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps., a citizen political action group that assists Border Patrol in defending our southern and northern border with Mexico. He is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam conflict, with a background in hand to hand combat, weapons training and military police while stationed at Camp Pendleton.

Al retired in 2003 after 32 years as a private investigator in Southern California. He currently lives in Arizona. He joined the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps shortly after retiring due to the needless deaths in the desert and the lawlessness and anarchy on a sovereign border of the United States.

Al has diligently dedicated three years to the minutemen in a crusade to set a new standard for what it means to be an American. While our elected officials, non-chalantly, regard the minutemen as vigilantes, the minutemen are busy saving lives and reporting suspicious illegal activity to the proper authorities, an endeavor attributed to one of President Bush's eloquent speeches. Without one incident of violence the Minutemen have peacefully turned over 10 thousand illegal entrants to Border Patrol and saved 300 lives. Al believes in the rule of law and demands that people enter our nation legally and prove they have a productive reason for entering our country.

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» Minuteman Civil Defense Corps


Deborah Notkin is a partner in the firm of Barst & Mukamal LLP and maintains a large immigration and nationality practice. She is the immediate past president of the American Immigration Lawyers Association (AILA), 2005-2006 and serves on its executive committee. A noted expert in business immigration and labor certifications she has served as Co-Chair of AILA’s Labor Liaison Committee, Associate Editor of AILA’s Manual on Labor Certifications, New York Chapter Chair, Co-Chair of the INS Eastern Liaison Committee and Annual Conference Chair of the advanced program sub-committee. Ms. Notkin is listed in Best Lawyers in America, the International Who is Who of Corporate Immigration Lawyers and Chambers USA as recommended immigration counsel. Since 1994, she has been a frequent lecturer on Immigration Law for the Practicing Law Institute and the New York State Bar Association as well as at AILA conferences. Her numerous articles on business immigration have been cited frequently in articles on immigration. As an advocate for positive immigration reform, she has appeared on many television and radio programs and has addressed many religious and business organizations.

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» The American Immigration Law Foundation


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